How to Get More Traffic — an In-depth Podcast with Pat Flynn of Smart Passive Income

  • October 20, 2010 by Corbett Barr

Pat Flynn just published a new podcast he and I recorded all about how to get more traffic. Check out full details about the podcast over at The Smart Passive Income Blog or listen to it here:

Pat and I cover all aspects of getting traffic to a new site or blog, how you can best use your precious time for building traffic, and how to break through plateaus you’ll hit along the way.

I’m really honored to have co-hosted this podcast with Pat. He’s probably my favorite “make money online” blogger because he’s down-to-earth, honest, smart as hell and just an all-around nice guy. Definitely check out his site if you haven’t before. The Smart Passive Income Blog

If you’re new here visiting from Pat’s blog, welcome! Think Traffic is a site dedicated entirely to helping you build a high-traffic website or blog.

Every month, I publish a monthly report on exactly how I’ve grown traffic to this site. Start with those to find out how I’ve grown this site from 0 to 12,500 monthly visits in just seven months.

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Murlu October 20, 2010 at 11:38 am

Giving the podcast a listen now, really relaxing and insightful. The talk about highlighting influential people to get them on your radar works wonders – it’s like an interview but beyond.

The only problem and I think this is just personal preference is that there are so many list posts and round ups already out there; how could one create this kind of round up without it coming across as one?

I think it’s just that I’m personally burnt out on list posts in general but the rest of the web certainly isn’t – either way, was good to hear you on the podcast, gave me a nice boost in confidence this afternoon (shh, don’t tell anyone, I’m at work haha).

Corbett Barr October 20, 2010 at 12:52 pm

Hey Murlu, thanks for the feedback. There are a couple of things to consider here. First, certain types of content will always be popular, no matter how may people use them (like list posts for example). Second, you’re right that some things might temporarily lose effectiveness when everyone is doing them. Expert round-up posts might fall into that category right now. But the fundamentals of those post types are still sound, so it’s up to you to be creative and come up with something that will cut through the noise.

Try combining two post types, or develop an over-the-top headline, or pack so much value into one post that readers would be crazy not to check it out. The possibilities are endless. Don’t give up just because it seems everyone else is already doing something.

Aaron Kay October 20, 2010 at 12:53 pm

Excellent podcast. Lot’s of great advice in there, I’ve got a lot of ideas from it. Try to get another guest spot or do your own podcasts, i’d listen!

Corbett Barr October 20, 2010 at 2:10 pm

Thanks for the vote of confidence Aaron!

Paras Dahal October 20, 2010 at 6:10 pm

Hi Corbett,

Once again a great post or perhaps a great podcast. I totally agree with you and Pat. Thanks for sharing such valuable resources with us.

To your success,
Paras Dahal

Azzam October 21, 2010 at 2:50 am

Brilliant motivational podcast, one I have not heard in a long time that hit home.

The key thing I took aware from the podcast was about networking and not to shy away from it. Building a community is as amazing way to build real momentum prior to even launching a blog.

Some of the actions I took was to join the A-list bloggers membership, drop Corbett an email and go visit the co-founder of wordpress Mike Little.

It also got me thinking in a totally new light when it comes to ‘thinking out of the box’ and that creativity really is fundamental to that much needed boost for a blog.

Other bloggers love to connect not just to like-minded people but someone who is looking at their niche in a different angle. It need not be about rehashing the same old stuff, but how you rehash the same old stuff. People can gain insight, inspiration, motivation and sometimes just have a laugh when a story is told differently.

Corbett is tackling the same old issue that has been around on the net forever….traffic. But it his touch on the topic that gives it a different flavour, likewise I believe everyone can offer this to their own niche.

Corbett Barr October 21, 2010 at 9:33 am

Awesome, Azzam, thanks for the recap. I’m glad you took away so much from the recording. It was fun chatting about one of my favorite topics with Pat.

Azad @ Internet Geeks October 21, 2010 at 6:06 am

Hey I am listening to this podcast right now. You started as co-host and the podcast turn into Pat interviewing you with different question.
Really valuable podcast and recommended.
Retweeted. :D

Corbett Barr October 21, 2010 at 9:35 am

Hey Azad, thanks for listening. Pat and I wanted to do a co-host sort of thing because obviously he knows a ton about building traffic. We might have slipped a little into interview territory, but I think Pat still shared a lot of awesome tips along the way.

John Muldoon October 21, 2010 at 10:19 am

This is great. I originally found your site, Corbett, through Pat’s. Way to combine your thinking to provide some massively valuable insights, especially for people starting out.

I remember when we talked a couple weeks ago about how relationships are one of the biggest factors in success. Of course, it’s true online and in the real world too.

Corbett Barr October 21, 2010 at 12:28 pm

Absolutely John. It’s easy to forget that real people are visiting your site and that real people are behind your favorite blogs. Relationships are essential online, and that’s why looking at traffic purely as a numbers game is a losing proposition.

Derek Jensen October 21, 2010 at 10:51 am


I first found out about you through Rob Rammuny and I have to say that you truly have been inspiring to not only how you’ve grown this site, but how you truly do interact with your community.

This podcast opened up a lot of ideas that I plan on implementing very soon and the two main takeaways I saw that were important were the following:

1) Getting lots of content out in the beginning stage helps a blogger define their true direction on top of give the community that’s being created a direction.

2) Guest posting and commenting are mainly used for getting noticed by the blogger of whatever site you are making those actions on. I’ve thought about the idea of planning a great deal of guest posts and strategically plan them to be released all within the same week. People would really begin to notice your name.

I’m always on Twitter looking to chat with great people (@byderekj)

Best, Derek

Corbett Barr October 21, 2010 at 12:26 pm

Hey Derek, welcome and thanks for the comment. Good luck with your guest post blitz. I know that’s worked for lots of people in the past. Think about it, hollywood uses the same technique by booking actors on dozens of TV guest appearances all in the same week.

Parker Lee October 21, 2010 at 7:08 pm

This was such a great post Corbett.

Thanks for the tips and it was great to know a bit more of your history and how you became as successful are you currently are :-)

Like most, the best thing I got out from the interview would be your tips on getting established bloggers to give you quotes.

Thanks for posting this!


Corbett Barr October 24, 2010 at 2:41 pm

Awesome Parker! I hope you can put the tips to good use.

Dave Doolin October 22, 2010 at 6:08 pm

Excellent discussion on emails. I’m able to keep up, more or less, as long as I can lag on some emails which require more thought. As Pat does, I postpone longer replies until I have time to process them.

Geek Camp October 22, 2010 at 7:24 pm

This was an excellent discussion. I’ve had the same feeling about guest posting.

wilson October 23, 2010 at 7:26 am

I just love listening to two of the best minds on the web sharing their tips with us. I’m going to apply some of the new things that you guys mentioned.

Corbett Barr October 24, 2010 at 2:40 pm

Thanks so much Wilson. Glad you got a lot out of it.

Sean Gallagher October 23, 2010 at 8:04 am

Awesome interview. Thanks for posting Corbett!

Corbett Barr October 24, 2010 at 2:40 pm

Cheers Sean, glad you enjoyed it!

Pat October 23, 2010 at 10:45 am

Thanks for your comments everyone! Having Corbett on the show was totally awesome – everyone on my site is raving about the episode too. I think we should definitely do a follow-up episode sometime :)

Azad @ Geeks Blog October 23, 2010 at 1:03 pm

I vote up for doing a follow-up episode.

Dwight Anthony October 23, 2010 at 10:47 am

I’ve downloaded this, cant wait to give it a listen, I bet there are some traffic nuggets hidden in there.

Dwight Anthony
Financially Elite Blog dot Com

Michael October 27, 2010 at 7:40 pm

This was a great listen. I checked it out on Pat’s site and wanted to check out what you had to offer.

Great stuff Corbett. Way more than I could possibly consume in just one day, so i will be back.

Thanks for taking the time to help others.


Ryan October 29, 2010 at 11:32 pm

Great podcast! I enjoyed the listen and learned a great deal from it! Will be coming back to your blog for updated content!

Betsy Rawson November 17, 2010 at 10:44 am

Great Podcast!

Corbett Barr October 24, 2010 at 2:33 pm

Thanks for the vote Azad. I’ll chat with Pat about it sometime soon.

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